Comments on: Macedonians ask for protection of the Holy Roman Emperor, Leopold I, 1690! http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/ educating the future about the past Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:50:47 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: gialtouridis http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-931 gialtouridis Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:03:46 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-931 jas, I will use an excerpt from PM Karamanlis' reply to Gruevski to address your concern. "As for any properties issue, any individual could make use of any legal recourse before the Courts, including the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg." I think it's pretty clear. jas,

I will use an excerpt from PM Karamanlis’ reply to Gruevski to address your concern.
“As for any properties issue, any individual could make use of any legal recourse before the Courts, including the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.”

I think it’s pretty clear.

]]> By: jas http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-503 jas Sat, 10 May 2008 04:18:58 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-503 @gialtouridis I understand your acts, you are afraid if the real Macedonians get permission to come in Aegean Macedonia for their properties.... then where you are going to live, because you simply occupied their homes @gialtouridis
I understand your acts, you are afraid if the real Macedonians get permission to come in Aegean Macedonia for their properties…. then where you are going to live, because you simply occupied their homes

]]> By: Michael Warning http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-439 Michael Warning Fri, 02 May 2008 17:34:17 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-439 Inca you wrote"i guess, risto stefov propaganda influence attracts not just macedonians but also catholics." Yes this does get the attention of A Roman Catholic. Alliances with The Holy Roman Emperor have always been desired by those nations who needed to protection of this Divine Office. Too bad the Macedonian do not have the same re-course today. Instead the world is governed by the likes of the USA, EU & UN. Macedonians should look to your Servian neighbors for the answer why this Divine Office of the Holy Roman Emperor is non-existent today. The House of Habsburg could have easily continued this Office for the benefit of your country and the World as well, but because of the rebellious Serbs who in 1914 were not content to be ruled by the yoke of the Hasbsurg Monarchy did everything they could to annihilate this monarchy. The Serbs succeeded and help to set in motion the New World Order. I as a Roman Catholic look forward to the day when this Office is once again re-established as a world power. When this happens you Macedonians will have some one to turn to for help. The UN & EU the Serbs & the USA will not help the Balkans or Macedonian. God Bless Macedonia! Inca you wrote”i guess, risto stefov propaganda influence attracts not just macedonians but also catholics.”

Yes this does get the attention of A Roman Catholic.
Alliances with The Holy Roman Emperor have always been desired by those nations who needed to protection of this Divine Office. Too bad the Macedonian do not have the same re-course today. Instead the world is governed by the likes of the USA, EU & UN. Macedonians should look to your Servian neighbors for the answer why this Divine Office of the Holy Roman Emperor is non-existent today. The House of Habsburg could have easily continued this Office for the benefit of your country and the World as well, but because of the rebellious Serbs who in 1914 were not content to be ruled by the yoke of the Hasbsurg Monarchy did everything they could to annihilate this monarchy. The Serbs succeeded and help to set in motion the New World Order.

I as a Roman Catholic look forward to the day when this Office is once again re-established as a world power. When this happens you Macedonians will have some one to turn to for help. The UN & EU the Serbs & the USA will not help the Balkans or Macedonian.
God Bless Macedonia!

]]> By: annettewahp http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-433 annettewahp Fri, 02 May 2008 12:48:02 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-433 Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor (name in full: Leopold Ignaz Joseph Balthasar Felician; Hungarian: I. Lipót) Habsburg (June 9, 1640 – May 5, 1705), Holy Roman emperor, was the second son of the emperor Ferdinand III and his first wife Maria Anna of Spain. His maternal grandparents were Philip III of Spain and Margarita of Austria. ______________ annette Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor (name in full: Leopold Ignaz Joseph Balthasar Felician; Hungarian: I. Lipót) Habsburg (June 9, 1640 – May 5, 1705), Holy Roman emperor, was the second son of the emperor Ferdinand III and his first wife Maria Anna of Spain. His maternal grandparents were Philip III of Spain and Margarita of Austria. Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor (name in full: Leopold Ignaz Joseph Balthasar Felician; Hungarian: I. Lipót) Habsburg (June 9, 1640 – May 5, 1705), Holy Roman emperor, was the second son of the emperor Ferdinand III and his first wife Maria Anna of Spain. His maternal grandparents were Philip III of Spain and Margarita of Austria.
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annette
Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor (name in full: Leopold Ignaz Joseph Balthasar Felician; Hungarian: I. Lipót) Habsburg (June 9, 1640 – May 5, 1705), Holy Roman emperor, was the second son of the emperor Ferdinand III and his first wife Maria Anna of Spain. His maternal grandparents were Philip III of Spain and Margarita of Austria.

]]> By: gialtouridis http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-362 gialtouridis Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:53:53 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-362 There is no documentation to support the existence of a Macedonian consciousness during the years of 168 B.C., the year ancient Macedonia fell to Rome, and 1878, the year of the San Stefano Treaty. For 2046 years where were you? Can you provide documentation proving a Macedonian consciousness during those 2046 years? There is no documentation to support the existence of a Macedonian consciousness during the years of 168 B.C., the year ancient Macedonia fell to Rome, and 1878, the year of the San Stefano Treaty. For 2046 years where were you? Can you provide documentation proving a Macedonian consciousness during those 2046 years?

]]> By: gialtouridis http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-360 gialtouridis Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:51:36 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-360 I welcome criticism. I also welcome a constructive argument. Are you willing to participate in a constructive argument? I welcome criticism. I also welcome a constructive argument. Are you willing to participate in a constructive argument?

]]> By: makedonika http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-359 makedonika Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:42:58 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-359 @gialtouridis Criticism is one thing, RACISM another. You are a Racist when you refer to me as anything other than Macedonian, that is my right of self-determination, there is no ethnicity in the world called slavomacedonian, slavmacedonian, skopijan, fyromian or anything of the like. There is however a Macedonian ethnicity, nationality and a language, wheter you Greeks like it or not. How would you feel if I started to call you a fake-Greek a Refugee coming from Turkey? Or even calling you a Turkish Christian, but then again those thing if I would say them to you would infact be the TRUTH, can you withstand criticism Pontioi file....... @gialtouridis

Criticism is one thing, RACISM another. You are a Racist when you refer to me as anything other than Macedonian, that is my right of self-determination, there is no ethnicity in the world called slavomacedonian, slavmacedonian, skopijan, fyromian or anything of the like.

There is however a Macedonian ethnicity, nationality and a language, wheter you Greeks like it or not.

How would you feel if I started to call you a fake-Greek a Refugee coming from Turkey? Or even calling you a Turkish Christian, but then again those thing if I would say them to you would infact be the TRUTH, can you withstand criticism Pontioi file…….

]]> By: gialtouridis http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-358 gialtouridis Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:29:20 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-358 I don't understand. It isn't bad enough that you alter my comments thus deviating from the truth, now you are warning me about expressing my thoughts? Talk about censorship over the internet. You are worse than communist China. What is the purpose of this site anyway? If you want to educate the world, then you should be able to withstand criticism. I don’t understand. It isn’t bad enough that you alter my comments thus deviating from the truth, now you are warning me about expressing my thoughts? Talk about censorship over the internet. You are worse than communist China. What is the purpose of this site anyway? If you want to educate the world, then you should be able to withstand criticism.

]]> By: gialtouridis http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-356 gialtouridis Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:39:12 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-356 To the editor. You are either of <strong>Macedonian</strong> descent or of Greek descent. What you refer to as ethnic cleansing was the Greek communists retreating into Yugoslavia following their defeat in the Greek Civil War. Those Greek communists eventually settled in Eastern Europe, adopted Slavic names and taught their children to hate Greece. You are most probably one of those children. <strong>Edited by makedonika: gialtouridis this is your last warning, if you post another comment like this I will publish your email and IP-address for everyones pleasure, katalaves gajduri?</strong> To the editor.

You are either of Macedonian descent or of Greek descent. What you refer to as ethnic cleansing was the Greek communists retreating into Yugoslavia following their defeat in the Greek Civil War. Those Greek communists eventually settled in Eastern Europe, adopted Slavic names and taught their children to hate Greece. You are most probably one of those children.

Edited by makedonika: gialtouridis this is your last warning, if you post another comment like this I will publish your email and IP-address for everyones pleasure, katalaves gajduri?

]]> By: gialtouridis http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/macedonians-ask-for-protection-of-the-holy-roman-empereor-leopold-i-1690/#comment-355 gialtouridis Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:16:29 +0000 http://makedonika.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-355 A liar always forgets a small detail. And that is how he gets caught. The liars who came up with the idea of a Macedonian identity forgot about this 2046 year detail. There is no documentation to support the existence of a non-Greek Macedonian consciousness during the years of 168 B.C., the year ancient Macedonia fell to Rome, and 1878, the year of the San Stefano Treaty. For 2046 years where were you? Did you disappear like the dinosaurs? The truth is simple. The <strong>Macedonian</strong> Gotse Delchev woke up one morning in 1878 and decided to call himself Macedonian. He was the first liar. <strong>Edited by makedonika: Goce was a Macedonian born in the city that now is called Kilkis, then it was called Kukush. The Greek army burned the city to the ground in the Balkan wars forcing the Macedonians to flee elsewhere. In the 1920s the city was settled with a large population of Pontioi(Pontian) and other Prosfiges(Refugees) that were coming from Turkey, thus altering the ethnographics of the city forever. This is how a part of Macedonia became Greek, thru ethnic cleansing. The same has happened all over the Greek part of Macedonia.</strong> A liar always forgets a small detail. And that is how he gets caught. The liars who came up with the idea of a Macedonian identity forgot about this 2046 year detail. There is no documentation to support the existence of a non-Greek Macedonian consciousness during the years of 168 B.C., the year ancient Macedonia fell to Rome, and 1878, the year of the San Stefano Treaty. For 2046 years where were you? Did you disappear like the dinosaurs? The truth is simple. The Macedonian Gotse Delchev woke up one morning in 1878 and decided to call himself Macedonian. He was the first liar.

Edited by makedonika: Goce was a Macedonian born in the city that now is called Kilkis, then it was called Kukush. The Greek army burned the city to the ground in the Balkan wars forcing the Macedonians to flee elsewhere. In the 1920s the city was settled with a large population of Pontioi(Pontian) and other Prosfiges(Refugees) that were coming from Turkey, thus altering the ethnographics of the city forever. This is how a part of Macedonia became Greek, thru ethnic cleansing. The same has happened all over the Greek part of Macedonia.

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